Real Talk
Real Talk is a podcast presented by Reformed Perspective focused on having meaningful and honest conversations with subject experts about the various challenges and issues facing the Reformed church community. Hosted by Lucas Holtvluwer and Tyler Vanderwoude, Real Talk aims to inform your discussions and inspire you to have challenging but important conversations with fellow Christians in the spirit of brotherly love.
Real Talk is a podcast presented by Reformed Perspective focused on having meaningful and honest conversations with subject experts about the various challenges and issues facing the Reformed church community. Hosted by Lucas Holtvluwer and Tyler Vanderwoude, Real Talk aims to inform your discussions and inspire you to have challenging but important conversations with fellow Christians in the spirit of brotherly love.
Episodes

15 minutes ago
15 minutes ago
What do we do with guilt? Is conviction something to fear—or could it actually be one of the ways God lovingly draws us back to Himself?
In part two of this conversation with Pastor Matt King, we talk honestly about sin, confession, repentance, and the difference between shame and guilt. We unpack why guilt, when understood rightly, isn’t meant to crush us, but can be a gift of God’s kindness that leads us back into relationship with Him.
We also explore what it means when we don’t feel convicted, the importance of confession in the Christian life, “gospel gaps” between what we believe and how we live, and how the Church is meant to walk with one another through sin with both truth and grace.
0:00 - How are shame and guilt different?8:00 - Dealing with guilt14:00 - Shame and guilt proneness29:00 - What if we don’t feel convicted?38:00 - Confession and repentance48:00 - Counseling and the Church56:00 - Corporate confession1:02:00 - Sharing vs. burdening
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Monday May 04, 2026
Ep. 148 - Jesus Took On Shame So You Don't Have To - Matt King
Monday May 04, 2026
Monday May 04, 2026
Shame can be one of the most powerful forces shaping our lives and most of the time, we don’t even realize it.
In this episode, we go back to Genesis 3 to see where shame begins, then unpack how it still works today, distorting our thoughts, and changing how we see God, ourselves and others.
But shame doesn’t get the final word. Joined again by fan favorite,
Pastor Matt King We talk about how Jesus steps directly into our shame, takes it on Himself, and what it actually looks like to start “shaming shame.”
Stay tuned for part 2 of this conversation on guilt, conviction and confession of sin… you won’t want to miss it.
0:00 Intro7:00 Genesis 311:00 Can shame be redeemed?13:15 How shame works35:00 Jesus enters our shame56:00 How to shame shame
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Apr 20, 2026
Ep. 147 - Lead with Intention or Lose the Mission - Peter Greer
Monday Apr 20, 2026
Monday Apr 20, 2026
Mission drift is real and whether we realize it or not, it can happen to even the best of organizations and people.
In this episode, we’re joined by Peter Greer, author of the book Mission Drift, to talk about how drift happens and how to avoid it. Even with the best intentions, it’s easy to lose focus over time—and often, you don’t realize it until you’re already off course.
Through real examples, we unpack the subtle warning signs of mission drift, the influence of culture, and how leadership decisions, people, and priorities can quietly shift your direction.
This conversation is about staying intentional—whether you’re leading something or simply trying to stay grounded in what matters most. To learn more, be sure to pick up a copy of Mission Drift.
A BIG THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR, NEERALTA, BUILDERS OF GRAIN STORAGE AND HANDLING EQUIPMENT. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW. NEERALTA.COM!
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Monday Apr 06, 2026
Monday Apr 06, 2026
We are all called to minister to others and the most meaningful ministry often happens quietly, in the small acts we often overlook. Joining us for this conversation is CRTS Professor and the author of The Ministry of Small Things, Dr. Reuben Bredenhof. We discuss the temptation to do big things, how we can cultivate a ministry of small things and the effects this kind of work has both on the one who receives and the one who gives.
If you want to learn more we highly encourage you to pick up a copy of The Ministry of Small Things here!
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Mar 23, 2026
Monday Mar 23, 2026
Everyone’s busy. Packed schedules, constant pressure, always something next. But the real question is—are you actually doing what matters?
In this episode, we talk about what it means to redeem your productivity—not by cramming more into your day, but by stewarding your time with purpose. If you’re someone who prides yourself on being busy, this might challenge you.
Joined by blogger and author of Do More Better, Tim Challies, we walk through principles of how to be productive and enjoy true rest in a way that stewards all of life for the glory of God and the good of others. You don’t want to miss it.
If you want to learn more, be sure to pick up a copy of Do More Better here!
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Mar 09, 2026
Ep. 144 - Backsliding: How to Guard Against Complacency - Dr. Mark Jones
Monday Mar 09, 2026
Monday Mar 09, 2026
Backsliding: Are We Presuming on God’s Grace?Are we drifting in our faith without even realizing it? In this episode, Dr. Mark Jones joins us to tackle the quiet danger of backsliding—what it is, why it happens even in churchgoers, and how complacency can creep into our spiritual lives. From the subtle signs like pride, prayerlessness, and neglect of Scripture, to modern distractions and the love of the world.
This episode dives into what real growth, perseverance, and daily repentance look like, offering both conviction and hope as listeners are challenged to examine their hearts and run to the grace of Christ.
If you want to learn more pick up a copy of Dr. Jones’ book: The Pilgrim’s Regress
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Feb 23, 2026
Ep. 143: The Sobering Conviction & Comfort of Hell - Dr. Will den Hollander
Monday Feb 23, 2026
Monday Feb 23, 2026
Can the reality of Hell actually be comforting and how should it inform the way we live and share the Gospel?
In this part two in our series on eternity, Tyler and Dr. Will den Hollander discuss what hell is and how it displays the character of God. They also get into some quite emotional questions such as can God send a child to hell? How bad is it? And why doesn’t God just create the elect?
This episode will challenge your thinking, confront your assumptions, and show how the reality of hell comforts and soberly convicts us in our love for the lost.
BE SURE TO LISTEN TO PART ONE OF THIS SERIES ON ETERNITY: EP. 141 - THE COMFORT HEAVEN BRINGS TO EARTH ON YOUTUBE, SPOTIFY, APPLE OR PODBEAN.
A BIG THANKS TO THIS EPISODE’S SPONSOR, BEUKEMA PNEUMATICS. WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.BEUKEMAPNEUMATIC.COM
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Monday Feb 09, 2026
Ep. 142 - How to Fight Fair & Forgive Well - Dr. Tim Lane
Monday Feb 09, 2026
Monday Feb 09, 2026
Is conflict always bad? And do Christians always have to forgive? In this episode of Real Talk, we take an honest look at conflict and forgiveness—two realities every Christian faces because every Christian is in relationships.
We’re joined by Dr. Tim Lane, biblical counselor and author of Relationships, to explore what distinguishes godly conflict from ungodly conflict, what real forgiveness actually looks like, and how the gospel shapes our relationships—both personally and in the church.
Conflict doesn’t have to destroy relationships. And forgiveness is more than just words.
To learn more, be sure to pick up a copy of Dr. Lane's book written with Paul Tripp: Relationships: A Mess Worth Making.
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Jan 26, 2026
Ep. 141 - The Comfort Heaven Brings to Earth - Dr. William den Hollander
Monday Jan 26, 2026
Monday Jan 26, 2026
It is with both heavy and grateful hearts that we release this episode in loving memory of Rev. William den Hollander—a faithful pastor, preacher, and dear friend of Real Talk.
Our guest for today, Dr. Will den Hollander, is Rev. den Hollander’s son. With his blessing, we chose to release this episode as originally scheduled. In God’s kind providence, this conversation on heaven arrives at a moment when the comfort of our eternal home feels especially near and deeply needed.
Together, we explore questions many Christians wrestle with: What happens when we die? What is heaven? And what will the New Earth be like? We discuss the intermediate state, the spiritual realm, and why meditating on heaven matters for how we live today.
We pray this episode would encourage and comfort you, grounding your heart in the certain hope of heaven and stirring in you deeper delight in Christ—now and forever.
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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Monday Jan 12, 2026
Ep. 140 - Godly Ambition: The Eagle Builders Story
Monday Jan 12, 2026
Monday Jan 12, 2026
What does it mean to have godly ambition and to work hard with what God has given you? Joining us to answer these questions is the Director of Eagle Builders, Craig Haan. Joined by his brother-in-law Gerrit Sterk, the two share the story of their family business and how God has blessed them as they’ve sought to work for His glory and the good of the Kingdom. Listen in, not only to hear a fantastic story, but to learn what it means to take action and be faithful every day.
A BIG THANKS TO OUR OFFICIAL SPONSOR, TRIVAN! WE APPRECIATE YOU HELPING US MAKE THIS CONVERSATION POSSIBLE. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW.TRIVAN.COM
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